nycThat's a great price break.Where do I get them? § Hyas22013-10-05 11:00:39pdxwhy? pesky22013-10-05 11:00:39because I want them to work for their pay?pdxwhere's the savings - no sense - I agree § ender192013-10-05 11:00:37sdothe house is playing stupid games toddg2013-10-05 10:59:16to try and spin the situation. THAT is what I'm saying. And anyone w/half a brain can see it. But I guess that excludes you.sacThe point being that if Microsoft can f**k it up Hyas22013-10-05 10:58:26then anybody can. I have asked many times on here (and I don't understand why not), if Visa, Mastercard, American Express, E-Bay, Amazon.com, etc. etc. etc. can do software that handles millions of transactions a day, why can't Homeland Security put up an E-Verify program that actually works for a few thousand hits per day?sgfI won't be here, dude_20122013-10-05 10:57:59maybe.I heard $2,124,38 a month per person I_was_wrong2013-10-05 10:57:45and you have to buy a policy not only for yourself but for the illegal immigrant the ACA requires you to gay-marry!*gasp* You mean the government REGULATES? flyjazz2013-10-05 10:57:15I didn't know. How dare they do things like regulate? Is that in the constitution? Why do we need regulations and laws for anything? Why can't we all be free and do what we want? Why can't the US be more like Somalia or the Congo?pdxit's saturday and I work private sector pesky22013-10-05 10:56:53dude.nyc^Another hilarious lie Wyne_E_DemoTyke2013-10-05 10:56:20I have provided links in the past, John. You're just full of shit as usualnycblah blah blah...I'm a LW troll w/no links^ § trimblee2013-10-05 10:55:44I use to pay $50 a month before obiecare existed § voterepublican20122013-10-05 10:55:37vanThe GOP started going nuts in the '90s. flyjazz2013-10-05 10:55:28I thought it might get better, but it didn't, so I left in 2000 and haven't looked back.chiI guess that's the only pussy you ever ate. § Wyne_E_DemoTyke2013-10-05 10:54:46reaObama should be saying, "I won't sign mesenger2013-10-05 10:53:39any CR or budget NOW unless it funds everything on my bucket list."chiWhy won't the GOP stop the eating of kittens? I_was_wrong2013-10-05 10:53:36I've offered a sensible, middle-of-the-road bipartisan compromise. I forever forswear consuming tender, delicious kittens and the Republican Party resigns all seats at the local, state and federal level and limits itself to dressing as clowns and amusing children with cancer. Boehner won't budge: it'll be kittens breakfast, lunch, and dinner and to hell with sick kids! Does the GOP hate kittens and children with cancer? 
chiI don't and I'm not a communist Wyne_E_DemoTyke2013-10-05 10:53:25I have learned to be happy with my lot in life. Liberals will always be jealous of that which they don't have the gumption to earn.phiYes, thanks for admitting I'm right § WeAreAlike2013-10-05 10:52:58vanJim Cramer: WTF is happening to my party? RuffJustice2013-10-05 10:52:27Over time, we've seen Republicans cleave into two parties, a majority that says it is pro-small business -- which is not the capital wing per se -- and a minority that doesn't respect the primacy of the federal government itself. The minority, which hates being characterized by anyone other than themselves, seems to have become more about single issues, to play to their base so they can get on the ballot as Republicans in their re-districted safe seats. The intense voters in primaries are not pro-business (that I can tell) and right now, at least, these Tea Party-like GOPers are willing to sacrifice a lot of the old mantras to get their nominations. In fact, the Republicans in this wing of the party think they would be sacrificed if they went with the old capital mantra. They can't be appealed to by someone in the GOP who is pro-capital because a pro-capital view could cause them to lose their nominations the next time around and they don't seem to need the funds from the pro-capital wing to win. This wing of the party seems united by only one thing: hatred of the president.oxrI get that - but like I asked before DBagain12013-10-05 10:52:07the total number of uninsured was said to be 44m lets assume EVERY ONE signed up -- what percentage is that and what economy of scale can be projected?I didn't make that argument pesky22013-10-05 10:51:50look, I'm sorry you're too stupid to discuss anything without veering off into juvenilia.You might be a little confused. flyjazz2013-10-05 10:51:36People maintain their own health. Doctors can help. Insurance companies insure people for health insurance. The government is creating a marketplace and subsidies to help people buy health insurance. I know you may believe that this means that the government is getting into the business of maintaining our health. But now that I've corrected you, you won't be making this error again.chiSo, you're ok with that chart? dude_20122013-10-05 10:51:12I guess you got a private jet then and 20 homes.I'm not losing anything here, you are pesky22013-10-05 10:50:49mistaken about what is being contested. I am speaking the truth here and you're posturing.I understand that - now to drive DOWN the cost DBagain12013-10-05 10:50:37you either pay the doctor less or you pay less for the drugs, which means that the company that makes the drug has to make the same drug for less or pay THEIR people less or pay their investors less ... etc. If the plan is to drive down costs, fine but "single payer" was the method ... not the reason.
I told you Obitch was Satan § voterepublican20122013-10-05 10:50:25prvmy line position clearly shows I was DazedNUndecided2013-10-05 10:47:49responding to Voltaire. Sorry you didn't notice.nlo^^Dummy ..re read my post and tell me what about Call_Me_Barn2013-10-05 10:47:35it you can't understand . I will try to assist you , ok , Bro ?Um ... how so ... what? DBagain12013-10-05 10:47:30I'm ASKING. If something that you think "should" cost, say, $2500 actually costs $18,000 -- wouldn't it make sense to dissect the ENTIRE situation and see where all the money goes - and why it goes there?spkGOP keeps saying "Dems won't negotiate" - But Hyas22013-10-05 10:46:33as far as I can see, the only choices they have left for the Dems are to either defund Obamacare or to delay Obamacare. Screw that! What's to negotiate? If there are other "trinkets" (like the medical device tax), why haven't they passed legislation that funds everything, but repeals the medical device tax? In other words, their actions do NOT reflect their rhetoric - - - or, more bluntly, those f***ers are lying again . . . and again . . . and again.
chiI don't and I'm not a communist Wyne_E_DemoTyke2013-10-05 10:53:25I have learned to be happy with my lot in life. Liberals will always be jealous of that which they don't have the gumption to earn.phiYes, thanks for admitting I'm right § WeAreAlike2013-10-05 10:52:58vanJim Cramer: WTF is happening to my party? RuffJustice2013-10-05 10:52:27Over time, we've seen Republicans cleave into two parties, a majority that says it is pro-small business -- which is not the capital wing per se -- and a minority that doesn't respect the primacy of the federal government itself. The minority, which hates being characterized by anyone other than themselves, seems to have become more about single issues, to play to their base so they can get on the ballot as Republicans in their re-districted safe seats. The intense voters in primaries are not pro-business (that I can tell) and right now, at least, these Tea Party-like GOPers are willing to sacrifice a lot of the old mantras to get their nominations. In fact, the Republicans in this wing of the party think they would be sacrificed if they went with the old capital mantra. They can't be appealed to by someone in the GOP who is pro-capital because a pro-capital view could cause them to lose their nominations the next time around and they don't seem to need the funds from the pro-capital wing to win. This wing of the party seems united by only one thing: hatred of the president.oxrI get that - but like I asked before DBagain12013-10-05 10:52:07the total number of uninsured was said to be 44m lets assume EVERY ONE signed up -- what percentage is that and what economy of scale can be projected?I didn't make that argument pesky22013-10-05 10:51:50look, I'm sorry you're too stupid to discuss anything without veering off into juvenilia.You might be a little confused. flyjazz2013-10-05 10:51:36People maintain their own health. Doctors can help. Insurance companies insure people for health insurance. The government is creating a marketplace and subsidies to help people buy health insurance. I know you may believe that this means that the government is getting into the business of maintaining our health. But now that I've corrected you, you won't be making this error again.chiSo, you're ok with that chart? dude_20122013-10-05 10:51:12I guess you got a private jet then and 20 homes.I'm not losing anything here, you are pesky22013-10-05 10:50:49mistaken about what is being contested. I am speaking the truth here and you're posturing.I understand that - now to drive DOWN the cost DBagain12013-10-05 10:50:37you either pay the doctor less or you pay less for the drugs, which means that the company that makes the drug has to make the same drug for less or pay THEIR people less or pay their investors less ... etc. If the plan is to drive down costs, fine but "single payer" was the method ... not the reason.If you want to drive down costs - wouldn't you break down the costs to their components in order to understand WHY and HOW single payer would have an effect?
I told you Obitch was Satan § voterepublican20122013-10-05 10:50:25prvmy line position clearly shows I was DazedNUndecided2013-10-05 10:47:49responding to Voltaire. Sorry you didn't notice.nlo^^Dummy ..re read my post and tell me what about Call_Me_Barn2013-10-05 10:47:35it you can't understand . I will try to assist you , ok , Bro ?Um ... how so ... what? DBagain12013-10-05 10:47:30I'm ASKING. If something that you think "should" cost, say, $2500 actually costs $18,000 -- wouldn't it make sense to dissect the ENTIRE situation and see where all the money goes - and why it goes there?spkGOP keeps saying "Dems won't negotiate" - But Hyas22013-10-05 10:46:33as far as I can see, the only choices they have left for the Dems are to either defund Obamacare or to delay Obamacare. Screw that! What's to negotiate? If there are other "trinkets" (like the medical device tax), why haven't they passed legislation that funds everything, but repeals the medical device tax? In other words, their actions do NOT reflect their rhetoric - - - or, more bluntly, those f***ers are lying again . . . and again . . . and again.
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